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Hermann Gottlieb ([personal profile] mathemagier) wrote2025-08-03 01:28 pm

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[Screened calls go straight to voicemail, where an impatient recording answers]

You've reached Dr. Hermann Gottlieb. Leave your name, number, and business if you expect a return call. Thank you.
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2015-08-13 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
[During This]

You left the apartment.

I mean, not that I care.

But I do want confirmation. Testing a theory here.

You feel it too, right?

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PAPERS SLID UNDER HERMANN'S DOOR

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2015-09-08 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
(Because I'm sure there will be more to come)
driftsintobuffetline: (can't have too many handtalk icons)

August 17th, perhaps

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2015-09-08 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
[sometime after this]


Dr. Hermann Gottlieb—

Apologies in advance for this being handwritten, but of course I lack a computer and printer and, to be quite honest, wasn't feeling up to going to the library to print this out. But in the interest of nostalgia, it really only made sense to hand it in to you in a physical form so, that said, you'll have to excuse my handwriting. I promise future correspondence will be conducted in a more professional, type-written manner.

Returning to our earlier conversation, however, I rebut your assertion that our shared connection, our neural bridge, does not qualify as a "power." I contend that your choice of word for us, "awareness," implies a state of being: a consciousness, knowledge, and observation. Power, however, implies action: either the ability to do or act, or the possession of control or authority. Our connection could be considered awareness but the definition is far too limiting. What we have is a cognitive power.

(Unscientific Aside: The fact that our ability could easily be some sort of comic book power clearly says, Hermann: it's a power. And if you are choosing what you consider to be a "power" as actually a "superpower," superpower simply means it exceeds natural or known ability. Even in the case of our post-Drift society, our neural connection cannot be considered within the bounds of normal human function. You and I are superhuman. It's a power, buddy. It is a comic-book superpower.)

For the purposes of discussion, our connection will be defined by its known abilities: radar (proximity detection and general "compass" sensing), empathy (transmission of emotional state), and shared thoughts/memories (what it says on the proverbial tin). Speculated abilities--that we may someday read each other's minds, etc--will be left out.

(Note: I reserve the option to discuss with you any speculated abilities at some point, however.)

Power suggests an ability, an action. Without the ability to turn it off-and-on our connection is more of a passive ability, like an open radio channel, but it is not a one-way broadcast. I am not just transmitting and you are not just receiving; projecting into the void between us is not the extent of our interactions.

As we established in our previous experiments(??), your emotions have a power over me--and vice versa. On multiple occasions, we have triggered each other; a few times we have pulled each other back. I wasn't merely conscious of your feelings and able to choose to react. Instead, with our connection, feelings exert a force: your fear, happiness, sadness, etc directly affects my mood and colors my perception of reality, maybe without me always realizing it, as though suddenly looking through the world with Hermann-Goggles on. Or blinders. Or perhaps more a blindfold with you leading me by the hands. More research under less duress is required.

The ability is passive only in the sense that it is constantly running in the background, but the effects are not passive when applied to us. Your pains--because mind and body are connected--become my own. I suspect my neuroses affect you, or can/will. Our connection is not just an awareness of the other's state. If it was, it wouldn't bother you so much. It would be the usual Newton chatter in the background: an always-on mental radio. (We lived with each other nearly 24/7. Even mental chatter wouldn't be that distracting).

Our connection is a discussion requiring active participating. It is a cause and effect, Newton's First Law put into mental practice: two forces, two objects acting upon each other and when one is unbalanced, the unbalanced force causes the other to respond.

It is also a shared experience. You are not on the outside looking in. You are on the inside--in the same boat, so to say.

Awareness – You are standing in a hallway outside a room. The room is cold and some of the cool air passes out through the open door. Although awareness doesn't automatically suggest understanding, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt: you know a window is open in the room and suspect that is the cause of the frigid temperature. Your parka cuts out the worst of the cold and you are outside of the room anyway. You suggest to the owner of the room that he shut the window. The owner is me.

Power – You're standing in my room. Or maybe we share the room. Maybe we don't know. I'm sure that's very philosophical. We are locked in. It is cold. The window is open. You know exactly which window is the reason the room is cold. Your parka does almost nothing for you; you feel the cold. Maybe you help me close the window.


In the first instance, you are the observer. You are aware of my condition, but it doesn't actively affect you and you can leave if you want. You could ignore it. In the second, you're part of this, whether you want to be or not.

But all of that? That's all largely an argument of semantics. The classification above is playing fast and loose with words that have no actual meaning to either of us as scientists. We're not linguists, Hermann, and the two words are largely unrelated in the actual scheme of things. Besides, I don't have your definitions of the terms or why you label it awareness, so I feel there are unknown variables.

I will, in the interest of not wasting paper back and forth on the subject, concede that the term awareness in psychology deals largely with cognitive abilities and how we perceive and react to the world. Point for you. That doesn't make this thing between us not a power. We're well into para-psychological territory here, though, so I don't think science will be a good backup in our arguments. But power and awareness do not have to be mutually exclusive. We have the power of enhanced awareness? Still a power--a superpower, no less.

The truth is, where do you define the end of awareness and the beginning of power?

It is not a cure-all, it's not a strength skill, it's not even your techno-fixer. But it is a power. It is an ability, one with many uses--and if usefulness if what makes it a power and not just an awareness, then so be it. This is a useful skill. If we can transfer memories, as we saw that we could with the telescope, it isn't entirely unlike uploading data wirelessly from computer to another. There are a multitude of highly useful applications for that.

In retrospect, I take back what I said earlier: I want to discuss speculative abilities here, now. It is not a far leap of the imagination to assume we could go from sharing present-emotions and past-memories to sharing thoughts in the moment. With a power like that, we could do a number of things.

Consider the following:
(a) co-process data like a network of super-computers, because two minds are better than one and our minds are superb
(b) transfer information wirelessly, including abilities (imagine, Hermann, sitting down to a piano and playing Brahms' Hungarian Dance, no. 5 flawlessly with the aid of downloaded memory of mine)
(c) real-time status updates on each other (peace of mind that someone always knows where and how you are…just in case)
(d) out-of-body experience (the ability to perceive the world through each others' senses, as if your mind is in the others body--at the very least provide visual)
(e) mind control (you might be able to control me, and I, you)

We could solve highly complex problems without vocalizing (although this is not an invitation to not talk). We could relay information without speaking (this has spy applications written all over it, not that I'm suggesting we play spy, although we would make killer spies), but it also makes us adaptive in the moment and useful as eyes and ears when mechanical instruments are unavailable. It makes us potentially able to tap into each other's databases of knowledge without the other being present. Even if we cannot send words back and forth, if we can only send fragments of impressions, think about how useful that would be! We are extensions of each other. We could be, essentially, our own two-man hive-mind.

This really comes down to one thing. I would argue, Hermann, that you would prefer it was awareness--that you would rather that definition over "power." It is cleaner, more controlled, to believe you are only observing my emotions and I yours; it is easier to not be involved. I think our argument the other day successfully detailed to us both that it does not seem to matter: there is no going back. The tape has been ripped up. Otachi Jr aside, our lab was our Jaeger.

We cannot just be aware. I'm not Saturn, Hermann, and you're not an astronomer looking from a safe distance. We are, if you prefer it in your language, a binary system, something like particles in quantum entanglement, two parts that act in response to each other. The fact remains that we are irrevocably combined, synchronized, push and pull, two halves of the same piece.

If it's not a power, it at the very least certainly warrants something more than awareness.


I haven't written a letter in so long, I think I'm rusty. Nine/ten years feels like forever. Haven't even written a paper in a long time. I don't even have a proper envelope for you! Next time, promise. But I feel like we should celebrate.

You know, I don't know about you, but I've thought about donating our letters to a museum. The Geiszler-Gottlieb Correspondence was pretty historic. Someday we'll have biographers and I honestly don't know how I feel about that. Maybe I'll keep the letters, leave them guessing. It's more fun if they're left to guess, right?

Those letters were epic, though.

-- Newt Geiszler

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October 16 - action. It's presumably a tiny log, if one at all,so here is fine?? They do tiny logs??

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2015-10-17 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
[The oversized parka with the fur-lined hood was a neutralish green in color, but still stood out amongst Hermann's equally neutral pallette of sweater vests, coats and slacks. Newt had shoved the parka in amongst existing clothes, trying to keep to whatever order Hermann organized his closet to maximize confusion and minimize immediate detection. He expected Hermann to notice, maybe even to be upset Newt entered the room and touched his things without asking. But the weather WAS getting colder and he couldn't imagine Hermann without the parka. It was part of the landscape of winter and besides, Hermann tended to complain when cold. It was in everyone's best interest, then, that Hermann be outfitted with said jacket.]

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we have plans for the bed

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Dec 17

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2015-12-17 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
[A little after this]

....Han Solo, huh? =D

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timecapture: rpicongallery on Tumblr ([Sunshine] Ready and Waiting.)

[the morning of 12/25]

[personal profile] timecapture 2015-12-25 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
[Hermann gets a nice green scarf and some cookies. Also, a card! Merry Christmas.]
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CHRISTMAS DELIVERY

[personal profile] pobrecisco 2015-12-27 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
[ When Hermann gets back to work at StarkTech after Christmas, he'll find a $5 giftcard to the coffee shop nearest work and a free movie ticket at his work station with a cute card reading "Happy Holidays!" and Cisco's messy signature. ]
driftsintobuffetline: (hey!!!)

January 2nd, 2016 - action

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-03 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Right after this, to spare their inboxes]

[Newt huffed and sighed, throwing himself up off the couch and stomping after him.]

What is your PROBLEM? [He doesn't spare Hermann any personal space and gets right up close, almost cutting off his access to the sink for water for his tea.]

What am I supposed to say to reassure you, because whatever it is, consider it said. I don't know why you're so fucking insecure. You're not losing your identity--he's not infringing upon your...inherent Hermann Gottliebness. You still have the market cornered on this whole grumpy, old-man-clothes-wearing math nerd thing and you're the only guy here who can code a Jaeger. Who cares if he is, for all intents and purposes, your twin? Because look around, Hermann. [He made a sweeping gesture that took in their kitchen.]

You're the only one this really bothers and let's do this, let's have it out, because if we don't deal with this now, we're going to be dealing with it in Hong Kong and I was honestly looking forward to a vacation for once!
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January 10 2016 - After the conversation with Manolo

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-11 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
[After they hung up the phone with Manolo, Newt made room on the bed, scooting away from the edge and into the middle of the bed, and then drew Hermann's legs up onto the mattress so that he was situated lengthwise along it. He placed a hand on Hermann's chest and gently pushed him back onto the bed, leaning down with him.] So, hey, you've gotta be pretty tired with all that teleporting, Doctor. How about you relax for a bit.

[He gave a cheeky grin before starting to unbutton Hermann's shirt, leaving kisses along the collar, then down his chest and stomach.] Relax and let's pick up where we left off. Why DO you prefer to introduce me as Doctor Geiszler?

[Newt had always associated his title with not fitting in, no longer being cool and accessible to people (not that his personality helped make him accessible)...and with his mother. With his mother, who never called, never sent birthday cards, never spent time with him--but liked to tell her friends and colleagues how her son was a Doctor. Many times over. He was something worth bragging about, but not something worth loving in person.

But Hermann called him Doctor, Newt assumed (hoped), because he respected Newt and wanted others to respect Newt as well, and if he was bragging, it was different. Infinitely different. Because, at least Newt hoped, it was because Hermann was proud of him and all he was--as a friend, as a colleague, as partner would be (not that Newt had ever done anything to deserve that pride)--and not because his achievements made Hermann look better by association. And not, as Newt had often figured in the past, because Hermann was embarrassed by his antics and at least if people knew he was a Doctor, Newt was just weird, eccentric, and didn't make Hermann look bad by association, either.

Just tell me you like me.]

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driftsintobuffetline: (call me newt!)

Jan 17 2016

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-18 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
[ after this ]

So then, what would have been the argument against?

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superposition: ((talk to me))

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[personal profile] superposition 2016-01-21 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
[Qubit's not sure why Newt sent him word to pass along instead of (or in addition to?) just contacting Hermann himself, but.]

Have you heard from Newt? I just got a message from him.
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January 21

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-22 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
From Russia with love I fly to you
Much wiser since my goodbye to you
(something something, I can't remember the rest of the lyrics)
I must return
From Russia with love.

Just checking in. Is this the evening check-in or morning? idek anymore.
Not seeing the sun is wreaking havoc on my sense of time.

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January 22

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-23 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
You there?

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matadorable: (â™® Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy)

audio; before the 20th

[personal profile] matadorable 2016-01-23 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, Dr. Gottlieb. This is Manolo. I hope you and Dr. Geiscler are doing well. Oh, and Liebling, of course! Anyway, are you and Dr. Geiszler free on the night of the 25th?

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driftsintobuffetline: (call me newt!)

January 23

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-01-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[In German for added security]

Why it never occurred to me we could use our minds to do voice/video and not just text, I don't know. But I thought I'd give it a go.
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medalsome: cropped by jackets @ plurk (a serious soldier)

action; Jan 24th

[personal profile] medalsome 2016-01-30 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
[Again Joaquin finds himself at the StarkTech lab in De Chima. It's later in the day than his last visit; this time he brought a bowl of soup, a salad, and a fruit cup for Hermann. He only had water this time but he figured Hermann wouldn't mind that. Joaquin had already eaten so now he just had to wrangle the frazzled scientist into settling down.]

Hermann! It's me... again. Won't you take a moment to sit and eat?

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timecapture: rpicongallery on Tumblr ([Sunshine] Ready and Waiting.)

Delivery! 2/14

[personal profile] timecapture 2016-02-14 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[Hello, science uncle! Have a card that's actually been made by Max, containing a sweet note, and a batch of cookies.]
driftsintobuffetline: (maybe I should hug him????)

March 14

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-03-14 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy Pi Day, nerd.

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medalsome: cropped by jackets @ plurk (a serious soldier)

3/28, later that night

[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-31 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you got home safe.
medalsome: cropped by jackets @ plurk (somber)

3/29, midday

[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-31 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry how things worked out last night. Really, I am.

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driftsintobuffetline: (trying to explain)

April 18 - voice

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-04-19 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
What's the sexiest part of the human body? Or most intimate? Besides the obvious, of course.

I need to know. For science.

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sidequestings: (that you'd come tonight)

( audio )

[personal profile] sidequestings 2016-05-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
[ the voice is a little cautious and uncertain, largely because mahanon.. still isn't particularly comfortable with the communicator. ]

Good day. My name is Mahanon Lavellan, and Lord Vorkosigan sent me your information. He said that you might be interested in-- [ he falters, because he's not?? really sure how to address this?? ] Well. I can open and close rifts in.. another.. dimension, he called it, and he said that you had experience with something similar. He thought you might be.. interested in that, and I admit that I'd like to speak to you. If possible.

[ a beat, then a little more firmly: ] Thank you for your time.

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dendarii: (TW_S1_E3_0814)

5/29 ish, before rescue things; audio

[personal profile] dendarii 2016-05-26 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
[ Miles voice over the comm is calm but tinged with desperation. If he can't get help from Hermann, he'll find other options, but please, please let this work ... ]

Dr. Gottlieb? I am in dire need of your assistance.

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driftsintobuffetline: (call me newt!)

June 19

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-06-20 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
[Liebling eventually makes it up onto the couch beside Hermann as Newt had hoped, and she demands with a couple attempts to climb into his lap that he move his laptop out of the way. Attached to her collar is small velvety satchel like is often used for jewelry. Inside the satchel are two pairs of cufflinks--one NASA themed and one set that are made to resemble an old science rocket. Also, a small slip of paper that says "happy pawpaw day" and a inkprint of her paw.]
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dendarii: (TW_S1_E3_0814)

6/25-ish

[personal profile] dendarii 2016-06-26 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Dr. Gottlieb? I owe you my deepest apologies.

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